Curse

deadmonkey4u · Feb 06, 2008, 05:11 PM // 17:11

LoD.... take that away and we have to run what paragons? -_- rits life/kaoli isn't simply enough and the old e/mo hp bots happen to work not so many wonders in a split nowadays.

Skyy High · Feb 06, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Though not as bad as removing Evade.

Still won't give that up? I'm still failing to see how the removal of Evade has cost the game so dearly. Every balanced team still has a ranger in it with Natural Stride. Despite the prevalence of blocking in the metagame, no one is running Griffon's Sweep. Literally the only thing that came out of that was Lightning Reflexes getting buffed to being usable. So...what's the problem?

To the actual question, the worst nerf in the history of the game, by which I mean, the most ill thought-out nerf, was the nonsensical addition of exhaustion to some rit spells and spirits.

Shadow Kurd · Mar 29, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by Alleji

Nature's Renewal

...remember when it stripped all enchantments and hexes in spirit range when cast? Yeah, that.

I can see the case for ER, LoD or prot bond being called "worst nerf ever". Anything other than that just doesn't compare and it means you don't remember or haven't felt the full impact of those :P

Aaaaah the good times:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/index.php?ti...t& oldid=3348

N1ghtstalker · Mar 29, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Lod definitly
also ward against melee was a bad thing to me
hated it

GloryFox · Mar 29, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

1) Blood Song move to Channeling

2) Ritual Lord build Nerf, All skills involved. There are plenty of counters now in the game for this fun build, bring it back.

3) EoE nerf (ah the good ol days of farming) No wonder there are so many poor people in the game. All the good skills were nerfed to death so no more easy to farm builds.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 29, 2008, 09:25 PM // 21:25

There's only been one actually bad skill nerf, and that was when the mesmer energy stealing line was completely destroyed.
It's been partly compensated now by shorter recharge & lower cost on spells, but immediately following the nerf mesmer was pretty much up the creek without a paddle.

Solas · Mar 29, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Easily the biggest nerf was the dragon festival redux, where the presents were assigned as opposed to jsut dropping made it an afk fest and i was dissapointed

i know the reason why lag issues but maybe if they could brign it back to unassigned and giveeveryone 5 assigned but the majority unassigned?

MithranArkanere · Mar 29, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Any nerf to any Elementalist skill is bad.
Any nerf to any other profession is good.

I'm telling this from an absolutely objective point of view, eh? Nothing to do with me being mainly an Elementalist...

thetechx · Mar 31, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02

i would have to say the worst nerf for me was the 2 days that nearly every skill in channeling magic had gave exhaustion, with no way of controlling it. man am i glad they realized how stupid that was.

*Paris* · Mar 31, 2008, 03:35 AM // 03:35

Anything with mesmers, Loot Scaling (the farmer's nerf), and finally Deadly Paradox,

MMSDome · Mar 31, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Paragons are a fragile class...

slowerpoke · Mar 31, 2008, 04:38 AM // 04:38

i liked the old otyughs cry

Reflect · Mar 31, 2008, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Fear Me
Watch Yourself
....

Lord Sojar · Mar 31, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

"Incomming!".

It wasn't nerfed. It was removed from the game.

Yes, because Incoming chains were fun to go against.... oh wait.

Kashrlyyk · Mar 31, 2008, 07:13 AM // 07:13

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Yes, because Incoming chains were fun to go against.... oh wait.

The problem is not Incoming, Wath yourself or armor stacking, but the unremovability of shouts and chants. I personally have not problem with enchantment removal removing chants and shouts too.

Lord Sojar · Mar 31, 2008, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

The problem is not Incoming, Wath yourself or armor stacking, but the unremovability of shouts and chants. I personally have not problem with enchantment removal removing chants and shouts too.

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Paragons broke GWs. They should have never been brought into being, at least in their current form. But that is a discussion for PvP forums.

Cebe · Mar 31, 2008, 07:25 AM // 07:25

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Yes, because Incoming chains were fun to go against.... oh wait.

I wasn't complaining that the nerf needed to happen, I'm sure it was perfectly Justified, but I am sure that they went about it the wrong way. A skill functionality change would have worked far better than completely destroying it, for a class who only had 15 elites to begin with.

Hodor · Mar 31, 2008, 07:51 AM // 07:51

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Originally Posted by Nanood

Protective Bond at 17 !

I'd just made my first 55 then. omgnoooo!

ShadowStorm · Mar 31, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Verata's Sacrifice. It got hit so hard with the nerf bat that no one uses it anymore. Really, the only way it even can be used is in conjunction with Glyph of Renewal. That not only forces the necro to be a secondary Elementalist, but it also takes up their elite slot. And even if a necro does decide to use Glyph of Renewal with Verata's Sacrifice, the combo is still inferior to Blood of the Master because minion degen will eventually overpower the regen and all of the minions will die. Not to mention the fact that the combo costs 3 times as much energy to maintain.

They should reword how Verata's Sacrifice works so that it's an enchantment that affects the caster. Whenever the caster summons a minion under the effects of the enchantment, that minion won't suffer from natural minion degeneration. After a certain number of seconds, dependant on the death magic attribute, that minion will die. And of course, the enchantment will still have a health sacrifice when cast, and should have a fixed duration, say 10 seconds, so the caster still has to cast it often. Any problems with a buff like this?

ShadowStorm · Mar 31, 2008, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by Nanood

Protective Bond at 17 !

Prot Bond still works for 55's if you can get your attribute up to 18 (with Golden Eggs or Res Shrine Blessings). Just use Balthazar's Spirit and Essence Bond with Blessed Signet and Mantra of Inscriptions for energy.